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Dec 23, 2012 8:00am PST
off is that you have unusual voices stepping forward, especially joe manchin of california who gets an "a" rating from the nra and did a famous ad shooting a rifle and he comes out and says, i've changed my mind. >> so does joe scarborough on msnbc. >> that's how the debate changes. >> he is a former republican congressman from florida. >> endorsed four times by the nra. >> to say i -- that day changed everything for him. he is rethinking his position on gun control. >> he has small children. he called the school immediately, said, can i come and get my children and it's that emotional impact that, fred, you were talking about. >> if there's one thing we learned from friday a week ago to now because of the mistakes made in the media is that now young reporters and older ones have to be more thoughtful about how they frame this debate. and have to really stay in the center, if that is all possible, especially in a place like washington. >> we have to have the debate. this is the issue because next time there's going to be another shooting, but that's going to be, who knows, months do
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